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jonathan is standing by. we are not saying this is a suspect. the upon the i'm making is that each and every piece has been reviewed and people have interpretations of things. is this a man running from the scene or someone that should be questioned? >> that is a man running from the scene. they tracked it down and he is a victim and you know, and why there's question about that or why was it of interesting at first? because everyone else is cowering and on the ground and in shock and he is running. so -- he is running to get away. an innocent victim. it is not at all related to this except that he was victimized in this bombing, according to many sources we spoke with. >> let's go to kristin welker. kristin we heard from jay carney a short time ago with the white house update on at least their perspective of the investigation and expectations here. >> that's right. and they are monitoring this right now. i can tell you, upstairs of course president obama has been in constant contact with the fbi, dhs as this investigation has unravelled. there
jonathan is standing by. we are not saying this is a suspect. the upon the i'm making is that each and every piece has been reviewed and people have interpretations of things. is this a man running from the scene or someone that should be questioned? >> that is a man running from the scene. they tracked it down and he is a victim and you know, and why there's question about that or why was it of interesting at first? because everyone else is cowering and on the ground and in shock and he...
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explosi explosives. >> they were using box cutters, jonathan. they weren't considered weapons by the airlines in those days. i want to get back to jonathan on this. why aren't they terrorist acts? they were, of course. >> they were. the thing is -- >> why does the law say wmd that we're using to prosecute today. >> this is a term of art we've seen come out of the bush administration. ultimately under -- >> sirhan sirhan was a terrorist. he killed bobby kennedy with a handgun. he's a terrorist. >> this is part of the backload from the whole 9/11. civil libertarians expect two explosions in every terrorist attack. one is the original and the other is the privacy of civil liberties. there's this pavlovian response. >> glad to have you on. thank you very much, kendall coffey. >>> up next, boston strong. life in the city is beginning to return to normal. i was up there this weekend overnight. the slow healing has begun. one week after the horrific marathon bombings. it's only a week ago. boy, the world changes in a week, doesn't it? we'll be right ba
explosi explosives. >> they were using box cutters, jonathan. they weren't considered weapons by the airlines in those days. i want to get back to jonathan on this. why aren't they terrorist acts? they were, of course. >> they were. the thing is -- >> why does the law say wmd that we're using to prosecute today. >> this is a term of art we've seen come out of the bush administration. ultimately under -- >> sirhan sirhan was a terrorist. he killed bobby kennedy with...
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. >> jonathan, we've got the materials at hand which has been discovered, the pressure cooker, battery pack and circuit board and i didn't mention a piece of black nylon that was part of the bag. >> the best estimate that we have gotten is if they can track this to where they were sold and who purchased them, that's going to lead us to the suspect. we've seen this in previous investigations in the 1993 world trade center bombing. and as a result they caught the suspects m sa suspects. same theory here. that's part of the investigation and pouring all over the videotapes for leads and that one piece of videotape of a suspect putting down a bag outside the lord & taylor or caught on the lord & taylor surveillance tape is another. again, as pete williams and myself have been reporting all day, there is no suspect. there is no arrest. there is no specific name. now, we've been told that there have been several names out there that obviously they would want to run them down but we've been told that it's ruled out. the investigation is ongoing, moving forward. the piece of tape is one of man
. >> jonathan, we've got the materials at hand which has been discovered, the pressure cooker, battery pack and circuit board and i didn't mention a piece of black nylon that was part of the bag. >> the best estimate that we have gotten is if they can track this to where they were sold and who purchased them, that's going to lead us to the suspect. we've seen this in previous investigations in the 1993 world trade center bombing. and as a result they caught the suspects m sa...
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jonathan dietz is in new york. we're trying to figure out -- you know why i'm asking this, it's a speculation, right now at the command center, operating center, what is happening in terms of the filtering, archiving and catalog of calls coming in. we're told by pete williams that the fbi is receiving calls of suspected matchups with the faces here. >> they are getting some names and now what they are trying to do is run those names through data is bas and s databases and there is no name to match the suspects. but they are operating those lines. they have task force teams obviously ready to run out and follow any leads as they come in. some names are being offered from the calls and e-mails that are coming in but as of now there is no certain match and they are, again, using all their computers and technology to try to, as the names come in, to try to find them and find out which tips are more credible than the others. >> i'm wondering, jonathan, if you were in that crowd and survived and you're watching right now
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>> jonathan, these two guys, jonathan, these two guys weren't just losers. they were part of radical islam. they were radicalized. >> that's right. >> this is a threat we've known has existed for a number of years. >> it has nothing to do with the immigration bill. it's irrelevant. it's not being rushed through as you said. the bill has been pending for white a whi quite a while. >> jonathan, it's sophisticated mindsets like yours that get americans killed because you don't recognize we're at war. >> joe, i think i can call you joe now since you're not in congress anymore. you know, that's kind of -- that's the kind of level of debate saying it's people like you who cause us to be hit by terrorists. that's what lowers the whole tenner of the conversation. makes it very hard to have reasonable, good policy-making. the emotion you apply to the issue is frankly very harmful to protecting us. >> it's the inability, jonathan, of people like you to recognize that we're at war. >> mr. walsh, thank you so much. i'm afraid we've run out of time. joe walsh, jonathan a
>> jonathan, these two guys, jonathan, these two guys weren't just losers. they were part of radical islam. they were radicalized. >> that's right. >> this is a threat we've known has existed for a number of years. >> it has nothing to do with the immigration bill. it's irrelevant. it's not being rushed through as you said. the bill has been pending for white a whi quite a while. >> jonathan, it's sophisticated mindsets like yours that get americans killed because...
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joining me now, nbc's luke russert who covers capitol hill and jonathan capehart, political writer for "washington post" and msnbc contributor. luke, are they going to have the votes in the end or not? >> most likely not. 60 is a very steep hill for this. the reason why, a lot of those republican senators who voted for this to move forward on cloture have now backtracked. what's interesting, though, i think that's really happened here is two things. everyone's attention shifted to boston, to the pr push that the gun control lobby that they would have is not the same. the newtown families aren't registers as much today as they would have had that tragedy in boston not occurred. number two, boehner in the house put out a pretty declarative statement last week. we're going to water down whatever comes out of the senate. if you're a republican senator, if you're a red state democrat, why go out on a limb for this when the house is probably going to sit on it? >> harry reid, i mean, he knows when he's got the votes and when he doesn't. why would he proceed with this? i mean, i wonder, is th
joining me now, nbc's luke russert who covers capitol hill and jonathan capehart, political writer for "washington post" and msnbc contributor. luke, are they going to have the votes in the end or not? >> most likely not. 60 is a very steep hill for this. the reason why, a lot of those republican senators who voted for this to move forward on cloture have now backtracked. what's interesting, though, i think that's really happened here is two things. everyone's attention shifted...
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right now wnbc's jonathan dienst is with us from new york. i understand you have a lot to brief us on in terms of the travel, in terms of the weaponry found at the site the other night. whatever you've got, we need it. >> we're told there are seven improvised explosive devices that have been recovered from the vehicle where they were allegedly throwing out the bombs at the police officers, to some of the devices that were found including one of those pressure cooker bombs that the older brother heaved toward the police officers and was opening fire during that wild and insane shootout that was taking place overnight. and the search continues for this suspect. they're doing it literally in a grid house-by-house, location-by-location in and around the area where he was last seen. have the whole area cordoned off. why is it taking so much time? because it is a significant area they're recovering. they remain hopeful that they will track him down, but we've got no indication that they have a sight on him at this hour. >> tell me about the older b
right now wnbc's jonathan dienst is with us from new york. i understand you have a lot to brief us on in terms of the travel, in terms of the weaponry found at the site the other night. whatever you've got, we need it. >> we're told there are seven improvised explosive devices that have been recovered from the vehicle where they were allegedly throwing out the bombs at the police officers, to some of the devices that were found including one of those pressure cooker bombs that the older...
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right now, let's go to the information from wnbc's chief investigative reporter jonathan d dienst. the survivor, being out there all alone. two brothers operating alone, technically, and also apparently ideologically. they were picking up their radicalization over the internet. not through any coaching or role of anybody as a sort of a recruiter. >> well, that is the claim that investigators say is being made by the wounded younger brother who continues to recover in the hospital. investigators are now running around, as you heard, they're trying to verify that. they are checking with all of the relatives. you've got the wife, you've got two sisters in new jersey. the parents overseas. you've got russian intelligence. you've got -- they're tracking their cell phones. as of now, nothing to indicate, bull but, again, it's earliy on for them to do a deep dive to find out if there are any connection to any others, whether there's a bomb maker or a trainer or some sort of jihadist who may have influenced them. unclear. but as of now, one senior official continues to tell us lone wolf ki
right now, let's go to the information from wnbc's chief investigative reporter jonathan d dienst. the survivor, being out there all alone. two brothers operating alone, technically, and also apparently ideologically. they were picking up their radicalization over the internet. not through any coaching or role of anybody as a sort of a recruiter. >> well, that is the claim that investigators say is being made by the wounded younger brother who continues to recover in the hospital....
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jonathan, i'd like for you to standby for just a moment. we want to go to wnbc investigator reporter jonathan dienst. what can you tell us about these developments to be the? >> i can echo much of what pete williams was reporting, our justice correspondent a short time ago. we spoke with a law enforcement source who tells us there's a stronger possibility that the events of this evening are linked to the marathon bombings that took place. he said there are, quote, visual and physical evidence suggesting it is linked and that it looks more likely. these are quotes. and -- but, but it is not definitive. and there's work to be done in terms of positively identifying the suspects who are in custody here tonight. one of them who we're told from a law enforcement source was shot during this wild shootout and chase that took place from about 10:45 this evening till about 2:30 in the morning. but that increasingly, the quote, stronger possibility that the incidents of tonight are linked to the bombing. again, this all started with the shooting of a
jonathan, i'd like for you to standby for just a moment. we want to go to wnbc investigator reporter jonathan dienst. what can you tell us about these developments to be the? >> i can echo much of what pete williams was reporting, our justice correspondent a short time ago. we spoke with a law enforcement source who tells us there's a stronger possibility that the events of this evening are linked to the marathon bombings that took place. he said there are, quote, visual and physical...
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>> right now, i want to bring in correspondent jonathan dean, who has been working his law enforcement sources on this story. >> i can echo some of what pete reported. i can confirm one suspect dead and the search continues for a second. that according to two law enforcement sources. as pete is saying, it appears that his officials say that there's now this defen tif link to the link to the bomb suspects. i'm told that it is a strong possibility given the visual and physical evidence that has been recovered at these multiple crime scenes. and i'm still waiting to hear that definitive information. but, as evidenced from the massive response and the unbelievable set of incidents that took place here this evening and the fbi now out in full force, investigating and tracking this second suspect, it appears a very strong possibility that these two incidents are linked, both tonight's, overnight chaos with the killing of a police officer and the shootings that took place and the bombing at the boston marathon. so -- >> jonathan, do we know -- now, we have a strong belief that these men are l
>> right now, i want to bring in correspondent jonathan dean, who has been working his law enforcement sources on this story. >> i can echo some of what pete reported. i can confirm one suspect dead and the search continues for a second. that according to two law enforcement sources. as pete is saying, it appears that his officials say that there's now this defen tif link to the link to the bomb suspects. i'm told that it is a strong possibility given the visual and physical...
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i want to bring jonathan dienst back in. a number of your sources in the nation's capitol, what are your hearing? >> this is precautionary. no final tests in. the statement they told us earlier today, a letter addressed to the president was received at a remote screening facility containing a suspicious substance. we are working closely with capitol police. the letters are similar to the one sent to the capitol, so therefore, you have two letters, probably sent by the same snrt that is now being investigated if any dangerous substance is included inside these mailings. again, they were off site locations. no 100% confirmation. but official field testing is what raised the concern. again, the secret service taking this one very seriously given what happened on the capitol yesterday. >> pete, are you still there? is pete still there? we don't have pete. jonathan, i'll pose the question to you for folks who may not be -- oh, pete is this. how customary is this, pete? i think we heard kristen welker, quite frankly, there are a n
i want to bring jonathan dienst back in. a number of your sources in the nation's capitol, what are your hearing? >> this is precautionary. no final tests in. the statement they told us earlier today, a letter addressed to the president was received at a remote screening facility containing a suspicious substance. we are working closely with capitol police. the letters are similar to the one sent to the capitol, so therefore, you have two letters, probably sent by the same snrt that is...
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we referred earlier to those travel records that jonathan dienst uncovered showing that six-month period that tamerlan tsarnaev, the older brother was out of the country, left for russia. we don't know where in russia he went. we don't know who he met with. but we do know it was just a month after he returned that a youtube account was created in his name that was filled with all sorts of radical islamic postings and videos about an ultimate battle between an islamic army from kurzan, which is central asia, defeating in an armageddon-like struggle. a clear indication that the radicalization took place while he was abroad. in fact, we heard the uncle speaking to reporters earlier today saying that these were good kids and somebody radicalized them. so i think that's going to be a major question that u.s. authorities and congressional investigators are going to be asking in the weeks and months after this is all over. what happened here? how did these two kids who grew up almost entirely in the united states become radicalized and come to hate americans? and who radicalized them? who playe
we referred earlier to those travel records that jonathan dienst uncovered showing that six-month period that tamerlan tsarnaev, the older brother was out of the country, left for russia. we don't know where in russia he went. we don't know who he met with. but we do know it was just a month after he returned that a youtube account was created in his name that was filled with all sorts of radical islamic postings and videos about an ultimate battle between an islamic army from kurzan, which is...
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i'm sorry, we're going to go to jonathan deans first wnbc's jonathan deans. this really sounds quite unbelievable. >> it does. and we can tell you that if fbi and federal law enforcement officials are looking into whether this is connected to the boston marathon bombing. what we are being told is that one suspect has been shot. that according to one law enforcement source. and that the fbi is now responding to the multiple crime scenes that took place out there that we've seen the massive local response with some federal presence. we are told we are going to see a much larger federal presence as they ramp up and respond as they now look into whether this is, in fact, connected or whether it's not connected to the atlanta bombing. and that there is one man who we've seen the video of him lying on the street. i am not sure if that is the suspect who was shot according to the source, but, again, as to whether it is connected to the bombing of the marathon, this source, says, quote, it's undetermined at this time. and they're working hard now to determine if the
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>> jonathan dienst. thank you so much for a lot of good, new information. here at the table, first secretary ridge, you and you were both talking earlier. the fact that the younger brother became a u.s. citizen on 9/11 last year. hardly a coincidence, most likely not a coincidence. but the fact is that there is an m.o. here. of people who do want to become engaged in activity, becoming u.s. citizens if they can. because it becomes easier to move in and out of the country. >> i think that's true. i think that's an m.o., that you described it, that law enforcement and the intelligence community has been aware of for quite some time. this puts a tragic exclamation point on that very notion. it becomes a part of speculation right now, whether they had operational guidance, when the older brother goes to moscow, and makes arrangements to be trained, whether or not they are ideologically connected to any groups. >> we don't know if he went for training. what we do know is he was outside of the country. which does lead to some questions that obviously national sec
>> jonathan dienst. thank you so much for a lot of good, new information. here at the table, first secretary ridge, you and you were both talking earlier. the fact that the younger brother became a u.s. citizen on 9/11 last year. hardly a coincidence, most likely not a coincidence. but the fact is that there is an m.o. here. of people who do want to become engaged in activity, becoming u.s. citizens if they can. because it becomes easier to move in and out of the country. >> i think...
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joining us now is krystal ball, my colleague and co-host of "the cycle" and jonathan alter, columnist with bloomberg view and msnbc political analyst. i want to start if i might, chr krystal, by showing you this article. george w. bush is victim of a rush to judgment. he has a book out in the same name. have we judged him too soon? eight years in the presidency. we knew about his whole life when his father was in power. >> we've had a while to get to know the gentleman and to think about him. in fact, i think some of the bump in the polls that he's experienced recently is a combination of two things. number one, i think his presidency, it's a bit like childbirth. you know, it's awful while you're having it. a while later you kind of forget just how awful it was. >> and you have another child. >> i don't know about that. let's not go that far. >> that's what my wife told me. we have three. what can i tell you. >> i do think we've forgotten a bit. part of that is because we don't feel quite as frightened. we aren't so in the midst of the financial crisis anymore. so it's easier to look
joining us now is krystal ball, my colleague and co-host of "the cycle" and jonathan alter, columnist with bloomberg view and msnbc political analyst. i want to start if i might, chr krystal, by showing you this article. george w. bush is victim of a rush to judgment. he has a book out in the same name. have we judged him too soon? eight years in the presidency. we knew about his whole life when his father was in power. >> we've had a while to get to know the gentleman and to...
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but as of now, there is no arrest in this case. >> all route, jonathan, thank you for that. michael isikoff, nbc news's national investigative correspondent. michael, you're on the ground, what are you hearing? >> pretty much what we just outlined here. there is a lot of excitement within the last few hours with all of these report. but first a break through, then a suspect and then a suspect in custody and that last part that is certainly not true. but the key question in my mind at this point and it is still open, is, yes, we know now from multiple sources that there is a -- that there is video of an individual dropping off a black bag, bag at the site of where the bomb exploded. and that makes him certainly a witness in this case. it is unclear to me whether they know who that is. and even if they could identify the face, whether they could find that person. and i think that raises all sorts of questions. if they found him and they are going to question him and they will be able to piece together and see whether he's got an account of where he was and why he was there tha
but as of now, there is no arrest in this case. >> all route, jonathan, thank you for that. michael isikoff, nbc news's national investigative correspondent. michael, you're on the ground, what are you hearing? >> pretty much what we just outlined here. there is a lot of excitement within the last few hours with all of these report. but first a break through, then a suspect and then a suspect in custody and that last part that is certainly not true. but the key question in my mind...
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now, let's bring in jonathan, investigative reporter for w nbc here in new york. what is the latest you have? in particular, can you bring viewers up to speed on travel that tamerlan, the older brother, who is now deceased has done recently? >> last year from january through july he left, flew out of new york's kennedy airport and flew to russia and spent six months overseas. whereabouts unknown. they're desperately trying to track those movements to find out was he just going back to visit relatives or did he go to engage in some sort of terror training or rad dalization? that remains unanswered at this early stage of the investigation. that is one piece of the puzzle. the other question or these documents that we've obtained show that law enforcement really didn't get on to their trail till recently because based on the travel warnings, they weren't date stamped till 6:00 a.m. this morning on both the brothers. so it's clear they really weren't on the radar screen anytime before in terms of law enforcement. so people always ask, where there any warning signs? we
now, let's bring in jonathan, investigative reporter for w nbc here in new york. what is the latest you have? in particular, can you bring viewers up to speed on travel that tamerlan, the older brother, who is now deceased has done recently? >> last year from january through july he left, flew out of new york's kennedy airport and flew to russia and spent six months overseas. whereabouts unknown. they're desperately trying to track those movements to find out was he just going back to...
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. >>> i want to bring in wnbc's jonathan ,bèdienst. we're getting news that terror suspect, tamerlan tsarnaev who was killed in a shootout this morning is reportedly flew in and out of john f. kennedy last year and was out of the country for six months. investigators do not know if tsarnaev received any terror training while he was overseas, but it adds another piece to this evolving puzzle. >> that's the question they want to ask, what he was he doing overseize, he does have relatives in russia and he flew in and out of the country, back to kennedy airport, he flew out of new york on january 12th, 2012. and records indicate he returned on july 17th, 2012. and now they want to figure out that gap in time. was it just a family trip or did he go for any sort of terror training. and that is one aspect of the investigation. his brother, as well, there are some documents as well about what he entered the country. he entered as a young man. with his family and they applied for asylum and it was received. and on the older brother's documents
. >>> i want to bring in wnbc's jonathan ,bèdienst. we're getting news that terror suspect, tamerlan tsarnaev who was killed in a shootout this morning is reportedly flew in and out of john f. kennedy last year and was out of the country for six months. investigators do not know if tsarnaev received any terror training while he was overseas, but it adds another piece to this evolving puzzle. >> that's the question they want to ask, what he was he doing overseize, he does have...
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i'm joined now by jonathan deans who has been getting the background of these gentlemen. one of whom left the united states for six months. evidence that he was getting radicalized overseas? do we know where he went? >> we know he flew to moscow. we know he has relatives in russia. the question is, what did he do over that six month period. that's what federal investigators are trying to track down. to find out was he radicalized. did he have any handlers he met with while overseas? again, this investigation is just getting started. you look at the freshness of this investigation. you look at their travel documents. it wasn't till this monning they were put on terror watch list. so it shows how rapidly law enforcement is moving, trying to catch up and stop these guys, to prevent them from -- now the one survivor, to stop him from striking again, after that horrible attack during the marathon. you'll look at that video. as pete and i have -- it's been described to us, the white hatted suspect walking through the crowd to get into the front row. calmly doing it. sets down t
i'm joined now by jonathan deans who has been getting the background of these gentlemen. one of whom left the united states for six months. evidence that he was getting radicalized overseas? do we know where he went? >> we know he flew to moscow. we know he has relatives in russia. the question is, what did he do over that six month period. that's what federal investigators are trying to track down. to find out was he radicalized. did he have any handlers he met with while overseas?...